By Fiona Chin N.D. 
Zombie Cells, Senolytics, and the Science of Healing
Have you ever wondered why some people hit a wall with their healing or feel worse after exercise? The answer may lie in zombie cells, also known as senescent cells, that silently build up in the body, disrupting energy production and recovery.
In this episode, Dr. Morgan Camp dives deep into how these senescent cells contribute to exercise intolerance, chronic illness plateaus, and impaired mitochondrial health. He explains how targeting zombie cells through senolytic therapy and accessible cellular repair strategies can reignite the body’s natural ability to heal and restore energy.
Dr. Camp outlines a clear three-phase mitochondrial renewal process:
- Clean out zombie cells to reduce toxic load.
- Restore fuel for optimal mitochondrial function.
- Rebuild and optimise the cellular environment for sustained vitality.
He also discusses safety, monitoring, and individualisation in senolytic therapy, ensuring that cellular rejuvenation is both effective and safe.
Beyond this, the podcast explores why exercise can sometimes worsen chronic illness, what patient data reveals about healing plateaus, and how addressing cellular senescence can unlock long-term energy, recovery, and resilience.
If you’re ready to understand the science of cellular aging and how to move beyond chronic fatigue and stagnation, this conversation offers practical, research-based hope.
00:00 Intro
00:17 Dr. Morgan Camp Introduction
02:27 Solving Exercise Intolerance
04:38 Roadmap for Today’s Discussion
05:53 The Plateau Patient Profile
08:50 Hidden Factors behind Patient’s Plateau
19:43 Senescent Cells Characteristics
24:10 Senescent Cell Burdon: The Exponential Threat
28:27 3 Key Principles for Chronic Illness Plateaus
38:31 Why Exercise Can Worsen Chronic Illness?
41:01 3 Phase Mitochondrial Renewal
41:28 Phase 1: Clean out the Zombies
46:15 Phase 2: Fuel Restoration
48:11 Phase 3: Optimize (Enhance Cellular Environment)
1:03:51 Low-Cost Strategies for Cellular Recovery
1:07:07 Senolytic Therapy: Safety & Monitoring
1:09:11 Senescent Cells: Patient Trends & Treatment Insights
1:17:14 Outro
